S22 Borovaya / Donnybrooke Freeze Concerns


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#21 GrandPrixYannick

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 01:18 PM

View PostPepe Higdon, on 18 April 2019 - 10:55 AM, said:

But Brno? Have you forgotten what a killing field that place was last year? In successive weeks half the starters --- 8/16 --- DNFd. And Sachsenring still is to be faced, where I am confident the casualties will be even worse. As it stands right now, only three of nine teams have more than 40 coins. If we keep up this pace, we'll all be driving loaner BRMs before August is through with us.
No, I don't remember, I didn't race that day :D
I suppose you are a bit right on that part, collecting coins is pretty hard this season.
For my team at least it feels it goes up very gradually up.
But hey, if you rather have no damage and save up for better cars, lift the throttle, bring it home. Should pay off well later in the season if you keep it clean :)

I'm giving Anderstorp a big no. Never liked it.

Maybe an oval since we don't have one planned this year?

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 01:51 PM

View PostGrandPrixYannick, on 18 April 2019 - 01:18 PM, said:

Maybe an oval since we don't have one planned this year?

Good call!

It was several weeks before I noticed that the schedule didn't include an oval. I think there should be one every year. I nominate Milwaukee.

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Posted 18 April 2019 - 07:35 PM

If we go for an oval I nominate Gateway
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 07:14 AM

View PostMichkov, on 18 April 2019 - 07:35 PM, said:

If we go for an oval I nominate Gateway

Just as we're required not to have a fantasy track, I thought we were required to have an oval. Last year it was P.I.R. Before that it was Syracuse, a sort of oval on LSD. Three years ago it was the King of Ovals, Daytona. I personally would vote for any oval, even Bristol, before I'd voluntarily return to a scorpion's nest like Brno, Bremgarten, or Turin.  :)

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 07:34 AM

I do not mind an oval
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 08:26 AM

I'd rather have the European and North American legs evenly divided with each six races so...
Grenzlandring :) (not registered as one but technically an oval, I think)

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 08:42 AM

History of Ovals/oAo
in the beginning ovals were also on the 'no race' list... along with fantasy.
but i was coerced / errr corralled, ummm convinced,,, :) to allow, in order to race Indy...
then Milwaukee was allowed.. and then that 'ban' was lifted.
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Posted 19 April 2019 - 11:19 AM

I don't like ovals... but well... if you decide race there I'll be there

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 12:03 PM

Grenzlandring is oval-ish in shape...

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 01:41 PM

I remember we had a good outing at Michigan Speedway a few seasons ago. Decent length (2m - 3.2K). Stable as I remember. Not too hard on lesser systems as far as graphics is concerned.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:00 PM

The only objection I have to superspeedways like Michigan, Daytona, and even Grenzlandring is that they rely heavily if not exclusively on top speed. Daytona is an extreme example, as it requires no throttle lifts at all. Short ovals like Milwaukee, Gateway, Phoenix, and plenty others require throttle modulation and even braking, so a wider variety of chassis will be competitive there. Last year at Phoenix, for example, the top four D1 finishers drove Brabham, Brabham, Lotus, and Ferrari. That would never happen at the superspeedways.

Given that few teams own Lotuses and Eagles, I would think that a short oval would be more advantageous to more members. They would also be more challenging and interesting to drive. Just a thought ....

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 02:27 PM

View PostMGL66, on 19 April 2019 - 02:00 PM, said:



Given that few teams own Lotuses and Eagles, I would think that a short oval would be more advantageous to more members. They would also be more challenging and interesting to drive. Just a thought ....

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 03:16 PM

But with shorter ovals the driver and setup skill will be a bigger factor, as we saw last season at Phoenix, where as at faster ovals like Michigan lesser drivers could do well with good cars ;) It's a bit of a trade off IMO.

I'd like Atlanta, Texas or Charlotte. Or old school at Darlington :P In my oval simcareer I loved tracks like that, and Rockingham, with a lot of tirewear. Also Dover is fun.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 03:33 PM

Bring back the (oval)  ban. I'd be a much better driver if I learned to drive on them but they bore me to tears.

I have unfinished business at a number of tracks, Brno being one of them, so no problem going back. Or what about Clermont or Solitude? Not very original I know,  but somehting with that sort of flavor is always worthwhile.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 04:29 PM

The ovals are like the practice of anesthesiology: 99% boredom and 1% panic, and it's that 1% of the time that really separates the sheep from the goats.

Unfinished business at Brno, you say? So do 15 of the 32 drivers who showed up on the starting grids last year.  :)

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 04:55 PM

For me, Grand Prix cars did not race on ovals.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 06:22 PM

If we're going to do an oval,Let's try Lausitzring.  A tricky tri-oval,  like Pocono, or do Pocono.   At least they might not be as boring as Indy or Daytona.

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Posted 19 April 2019 - 07:40 PM

View PostRonnie Nilsson, on 19 April 2019 - 04:55 PM, said:

For me, Grand Prix cars did not race on ovals.

What would you call Monza, Monthlery or Brooklands? All of them ran GPs in oval only configuration at one point in time.
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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:56 AM

Not an oval... but what about the shiny new Phillip Island?

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 05:52 AM

I would prefer the replacement not to be an oval. If however we land on an oval I hope its one that is a little longer then the one we drove last year. My head was spinning for days after that race.




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