S22 Borovaya / Donnybrooke Freeze Concerns


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#41 Iestyn Davies

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 10:56 AM

I shall repost my recent post to Ozpata's track maps thread at SRMZ: It's interesting that, from the original Automobile World Championship, the tracks were mostly oval based - yet now oval racing is seen as primarily American:

1925 - Indy (oval), Spa (road), Montlhery (roval), Monza (roval)

1926 - Indy (oval), Miramas (oval), Lasarte (road), Brooklands (oval), Monza (roval)

1927 - Indy (oval), Montlhery (roval), Lasarte (road), Monza (roval), Brooklands (oval)

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'Junk era' aside, it was Europe that finally moved away from Indy by changing technical regs one last time in 1954. IRL aside, Indy has basically kept the same rules since then, only reducing the capacity and cylinders to keep speeds in check.
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New Philip Island seems like the perfect replacement to me, but I haven't driven it yet.

But if we are looking out for discos - what about the old glen with boot or Portland? Does anyone have experience with them? Usually a really old add-on is more prone to problems. I don't know when it was sussed that gaps = discos, but I believe many older tracks were released before that was widely accepted/solved by having overlaps instead.
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Posted 20 April 2019 - 12:08 PM

Ovals wise, oAo has run:

Milwaukee s14
Indy 67 s15, s16
Michigan s17
Daytona s19
Phoenix s21

There are also rovals:

Monza Milano/1k/10k in s1, s3, s5, s15 and s16.
Grenzlandring s14
Daytona (24hrs) s15
Enna s16, s18

Trenton (2015) and Langhorne (2013) are new Ginetto 1 mile ovals that haven't yet been run (he also lost a new Indy 67). Looking at older tracks, there is Rafaela (2003), almost 3 miles long and which held an Indycar race in 1971, won by Al Unser. I would prioritise those four first.

Other options are: Rockingham (2002), Nazareth, Lausitzring, Mallory Park, Calder Park and Noonan's conversions of 1 mile or longer, which are (non-superseded): Talladega, Pocono, Ontario, Michigan (s17), Fontana, Atlanta, Homestead, Texas, Darlington, Gateway, Loudon, Pikes Peak and Milwaukee (s14).

PS. A full length race has existed since s8, and year long seasons since s14 (2011), which is also when ovals started.

Edited by Iestyn Davies, 20 April 2019 - 12:16 PM.

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 01:57 PM

Iestyn... do you have all those statistics or are them available somewhere in the web?

I was looking for data from past seasons and didn't find.

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 02:42 PM

Hi Marcos,

Last time I was on the TSG, Claudio sent us an excel file with a season history of the oAo tracks on it, along with his suggestions/proto-calendar for the next season. I've kept this updated and added a page which shows how many times oAo has raced at each track, plus added what tracks have not yet been raced at. If you would like to see it just let me know :).

PS. Bruce keeps the old seasons web pages up in the history & records section

Edited by Iestyn Davies, 20 April 2019 - 02:43 PM.

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 04:06 PM

Ok, Iestyn, thanks. No problem.

I was looking for old reports for some statistics I was doing, but doesn't matter. It's just a hobby, hehe.

Cheers

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 04:57 PM

this is on the web site (left column, TRACK RACED HISTORY)

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Posted 20 April 2019 - 07:06 PM

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 05:20 AM

I know we have the mid season break in between but Borovaya is next up after the Green Hell. Are further discussions going on behind the scenes about a possible replacement or are we going to run with it as it is?

Possibly a fun race during the break to test it out?

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Posted 12 May 2019 - 09:02 AM

The ADC ran off two CanAm '71 events in the past week at Donnybrooke(donbro71)without incident.

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 02:52 PM

So... have we actually decided what the replacement track is?

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:29 PM

Also... in oAo webpage is listed Watkins Glen 71 and in the Weekly is Magny Cours instead.
Which track is the correct one?

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 03:45 PM

My latest information on this, Marcos, is that the Glen71 is the correct venue.  We did Magny-Cours 1998 as part of our off-season CanAm66 races.

All subject to revision, of course, as the event is a long way off yet.

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Posted 19 May 2019 - 06:53 PM

View Postmcmirande, on 19 May 2019 - 03:29 PM, said:

Also... in oAo webpage is listed Watkins Glen 71 and in the Weekly is Magny Cours instead.
Which track is the correct one?

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Weekly is just an aggregator for the various leagues, it manually adds the various seasons to the page.
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Posted 19 May 2019 - 09:22 PM

Ok. Thanks!
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:15 AM

So.. replacement track for Borovaya?

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:21 AM

Yes, that would be good to know ?
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:02 AM

Bruce is going to make an announcement, don't be so desperate...
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 07:43 AM

Has oAo ever done the Lime Rock Mountain track?  Are there issues with it?
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 09:31 AM

I think it´s a fantasy one, Richard
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Posted 26 May 2019 - 01:33 PM

the replacement track is in honor of Niki Lauda - Zeltweg71....  this decision was sent to me by Claudio - i'm only announcing 'cause he said i was :)
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