Is This A Good Thing For Us Viewers?


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#1 Bo Bruce

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 11:50 AM

ESPN F1 confirms partnership w/ Sky Sports F1 for USA TV coverage

we did have Hobbs/Matchett and Dieffy... and i thought they were better than anything i've heard before. knowledgeable - and experienced. i learned a lot and not a lot of hype (aka eddie Cheever 'ohhh this is dangerous'...  oh they're going to crash (didn't)  etc... very little insight from ABC announce teams (Indycar)  tried to sound like horse race announcers to people that have never watched F1 :(

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 04:24 PM

I could do without Diffey. But I like Hobbs and Matchet.
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Posted 13 February 2018 - 06:00 PM

As for race commentary, I should think that you'd have to go a long way to beat Peter Whatshisname who broadcast from the hairpin at Mosport for major races back in the 1970's.  He'd do his best to wind up the crowd into a fever pitch like extolling the virtues of the little Costello-Olds which had not a ghost of chance against the big-bore stuff in the CanAms.  Word was that he'd start the day with a bottle of scotch to loosen up his vocal chords.  Ahem, ahem...  ;)

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 09:54 PM

I've watched Sky and the other British channels F1 coverage, and rate them miles above NBCSN and any other American coverage. Hobbs is to old, Matchett out of touch, Diffey is a corporate shill. It can't be any worse then it's been.
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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:12 AM

If you look around the web you can find F1 Sky coms. Personally I find the main commentator too hyperactive and obsessed with Hamilton. He doesn't really stand out compared to others. Martin Brundle does a good job as ex driver if he gets in more than a sentence at a time and Ted in the pits is decent too. Can recommend his aftershow if its available.
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Posted 15 February 2018 - 10:43 AM

View Postzzbusch1, on 13 February 2018 - 09:54 PM, said:

I've watched Sky and the other British channels F1 coverage, and rate them miles above NBCSN and any other American coverage. Hobbs is to old, Matchett out of touch, Diffey is a corporate shill. It can't be any worse then it's been.

+++++:thumbs up:

We get Sky here in Canada and while the US coverage has improved, Brundell and the Sky team is much better.
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Posted 16 February 2018 - 08:20 AM

I completely agree with Michi. But for me the best commentary is by Channel 4's Ben Edwards and David Coulthard, I'm stuck with dutch broadcaster Ziggo. That sucks, since the commentator (Olav Mol) misses many stuff that happens on the track (he refuses to have a sidekick (ego)) and thinks Max Verstappen can't do anything wrong (compare David Croft/Lewis Hamilton).

Still Skysports isn't too bad and has extensive coverage, wished they would replace Crofty tho. I think the biggest problem for US viewers would be the ridiculous amount of commercials they will put in (when in Europe there won't be any commercials during the race)...

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 10:00 AM

coverage here was about (Depending on length of circuit) about 5 laps then 3 or 4 minutes of commercials.... picking up where the race 'is'... unless there was a crash  or an overtake for the lead.
usually the last 10 laps were commercial free.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 06:58 AM

TV only exists for the commercials. Everything in between is merely filler.
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Posted 17 February 2018 - 03:19 PM

View PostEFulghum, on 17 February 2018 - 06:58 AM, said:

TV only exists for the commercials. Everything in between is merely filler.

Where is that from, the 2017 remake of Grand Prix?
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Posted 19 February 2018 - 07:25 AM

no, it's mine :)
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Posted 19 February 2018 - 08:22 AM

Yesterday I did watch the CRASHCAR Commercial 500 :P

"Thank the Lord", said the euforious winner after blatantly wrecking the leader. "It was all Him!" :biggrinangelA:

Edited by Robert Fleurke, 19 February 2018 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted 19 February 2018 - 04:49 PM

I did like how the cars raced, seemed a lot squirrelly than the previous years. The heat racing and over aggressiveness resulting from it not so much.

Edited by Michkov, 19 February 2018 - 05:02 PM.

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Posted 19 February 2018 - 07:54 PM

View PostRobert Fleurke, on 19 February 2018 - 08:22 AM, said:

Yesterday I did watch the CRASHCAR Commercial 500 :P

"Thank the Lord", said the euforious winner after blatantly wrecking the leader. "It was all Him!" :biggrinangelA:

LOL

This is the way Crashcar has been for 30 years.  A real race would have penalized him at least a drive through or time it takes to stop and go.  He was real happy about pushing that guy out of the way.
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Posted 20 February 2018 - 01:52 PM

Every year I seem to watch less and less Nascar. Sundays race maybe the last one I watch this season, unless I see that they're at a road course.
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Posted 20 February 2018 - 04:15 PM

View Postbobho-in, on 20 February 2018 - 01:52 PM, said:

Every year I seem to watch less and less Nascar. Sundays race maybe the last one I watch this season, unless I see that they're at a road course.

They run at Sears Point, Watkins Glen and an abomination of a roval at Charlotte. Sears and Glen are must watches for me as the cars are so far out of their environment. Cant say anything about Charlotte as they'll run it the first time this year.
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Posted 20 February 2018 - 05:33 PM

I followed NASCAR in the 90s on Eurosport. Rooted for Mark Martin back then. Then in 2000 Matt Kenseth won the World 600 as a rookie and from that day I was a fan of him. He drove a bit like Mark Martin even when he wasn't a specific bottomfeeder. A bit of a quiet modest guy with dry humour. The way he dominated the 2003 season gave birth to the play-offs. Matt had his way of racing, being patient, being smart and biding his time. And racing hard as fuck when he needed to, late race. Great guy to root for. It's a joke no big team offered him a contract...underrated driver, he was one of the very best and one of the most intelligent drivers!

Might watch a stream now and then. Plate races have never been my favorite. Darlington used to be my favorite and the 2003 finish was the best.

I won't bore you with my online IndyCar/NASCAR career over the years (1999-2007), but I tried to mimick the Martin/Kenseth style :yawn:

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Posted 25 February 2018 - 10:26 PM

Mark Martin would NEVER bump someone out of the way. He said he couldn't sleep well at night if he did that. Mark Martin was the best Nascar driver never to win a Championship. A really nice guy from all accounts.
Matt Kenseth was great to watch. He and Dale Junior fighting it out in the Busch Grand National Series before they joined Winston Cup was some really great oval racing. I lost all respect for Matt when he blatantly ran into someone and crashed them last year or the year before. He was penalized heavily for it. He did the one thing I always told people did not happen in real racing and that it was only something that happens in movies like the horrendous Days Of Thunder.
Basically in my view, Nascar died when Dale Earnhart died. Nascar has been trying to make up for that loss ever since. My interest has slowly diminished ever since as well. Not only because Dale is no longer around to watch, but because of all of the changes they made in the wake of Dale's death. I hate the new "stage" thing they are doing.
What do you do when you run a sport and the guys showing up to drive in your sport are simply unlikable? ....you loose money and fans at a rapid rate.


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Posted 28 February 2018 - 01:11 PM

You'll be good with Brundle and co Bruce. Martin's been at it since he retired in 1996 and quickly found his mojo commentating and reviewing the sport, one of the best there is for sure. He has a handy couple sidekicks in Damon Hill and Johnny Herbert and some analysis from Anthony Davidson / Paul di Resta on top of it. It's rather British but also rather good, they know the people in this world and get places. Surely you'll like it and me like Robert will envy you for we are stuck with Dutch commentating which seems to have frozen solid in quality since the days of Jos Verstappen with orange glass incomplete and biased coverage ever since Max came to the scene :)
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Posted 28 February 2018 - 05:54 PM

If you're after commentary Sky's pretty good. They're British but it sounds like the other outfits are homers as well. DiResta gets my vote for most useful of the Sky bunch. He stays on topic, is fairly concise and pretty thoughtful overall. Always thought he was one of those kids from one of those families that you run into at the track but he seems to know his business. Maybe he got burned enough but he doesn't dwell on the pomp like the others are prone to. Brundle's pretty good too. Davidson was one of my favourite karters but I find Hill and Herbert don't really have much of a place within the format.  As for the announcer - he's an  announcer - at least he's not the guy doing the CIK races... now that guy is E-N-T-H-U-U-U-U-U-S-I-A-S-T-I-C!


I was disappointed to see that Canada wasn't in the initial roll out for the new streaming service as I'd personally favour that. It seems customizable to the point of being able to turn off the commentary altogether which is what I would do. Too often there is too much talking and you can't hear what the drivers are doing. I get most of what I need from the scrolls. If more of the info was absolute rather than incremental I'd prefer that but that is personal preference.

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